Helen and Gavin chat about The Wonder, The Apprentice, and M3GAN, and it's Week 62 from the list of Rolling Stone's 500 Best Songs Ever, numbers 195 to 191; Crazy by Patsy Cline, Rid of Me by PJ Harvey, Wild Horses by The Rolling Stones, Mind Playing Tricks on Me by Geto Boys, and Ode to Billie Joe by Bobbie Gentry.